Dr. Brunner's unused original role

[novembermann]

Hello everyone Novembermann here and this is a topic i've been wanting to talk about for a long time which is Dr. Brunner a character that always bugged me a lot in the game and as someone who has seen a lot of this game and looking at the beta and unused stuff she always popped up so i decided to finally discuss her with everyone regarding things i found regarding her and things in the files of the game and the UT8 file that suggested that she had a bigger and more different role in the game so before i begin i will say all of this can be found in the files of the game and the UT8 file so if you wanted to you can look further into it and try to find things that i might have missed so with that out of the way let's begin.


Dr. Brunner in Summoners not included

Dr. Brunner has always been very mysterious even with her appearance and role however in the files of the game her Icon and Model are named "EN_ParaPsycho" or "Parapsychologist" despite her having only 4 appearances in the game total she does have 1 other appearance in a level but she never spawns that being in "Summoners not included" she is set in the level as the fifth mortal in it however she never spawns at any point as there is no code made to make her spawn its unknown why she is in the level or what her purpose was as she never spawns at any point spawning her in doesn't do anything as she'll just do the same routine as the other mortals and removing her won't do anything it's unknown what her role was in that level or why she was there as only the developers of the game can explain it.


Parapsychologist? 

Dr.Brunner's Model and Icon references her as a "Parapsychologist" while her Model is called "EN_ParaPsycho" this might not seem weird at first however as i start look into the files of the game i found out that the model might not originally belong to Dr. Brunner but rather was originally supposed to be used by another character that uses the model and Icon being this unused character found in the listing for The Unusual Suspects

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TEXT_PARAPSYCHO_NAME "Dr. Diana Radin"

//TEXT_HB_PARAPSYCHO_BIO "A noted psi researcher, Dr. Radin's ability to explain hauntings in scientific terms make her a dangerous adversary."
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Dr. Diana Radin is an unused character that was supposed to appear in the Precinct Station in "The Unusual Suspects" this may not seem important at first however if you look at her Text name it references her as "TEXT_PARAPSYCHO" the same name used for Dr. Brunner's model as her model is called "EN_ParaPsycho" in the files the reason i think they simply reused this model fro Dr.Brunner is because none of her text files ever reference her being a Parapsychologist instead referencing her as an MIB Advisor

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TEXT_MIB_ADVISOR_NAME "Dr. Brunner "

TEXT_GI_MIB_ADVISOR_BIO "Almost nothing is known about this mysterious figure."
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the text file only ever references Dr. Brunner as an MIB Advisor not as a Parapsychologist so you might be asking who are the MIB well they're the most important part of this topic.


The M.I.B 

The MIB are characters that are referenced a couple of times in the files of the UT8 File they're a mysterious pack of characters that don't have any unused models or icons referencing them however the only leftover of them are they're names

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TEXT_MIB_AGENT_A_NAME "Agent Foxtrot"

TEXT_MIB_AGENT_B_NAME "Agent Tango"

TEXT_MIB_AGENT_C_NAME "Agent Oscar "

TEXT_MIB_AGENT_D_NAME "Agent India"

TEXT_MIB_AGENT_E_NAME "Agent Delta"

TEXT_MIB_PSYCHIC_NAME "Agent Echo"
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it's unknown much about what the MIB agents were gonna do in the original game however it's likely Dr. Brunner was originally gonna have an important role with the MIB and that the MIB were supposed to have a bigger role in the game but was scrapped


Final Thoughts 

It's likely the people behind Ghost master wanted Dr. Brunner to have a bigger role and maybe reveal her as an MIB Advisor and have the MIB play a bigger role but was cut from the final game it's unknown what they wanted to do with the MIB and what it could have made in the game had they been added let me know your thoughts on this Thread and let me know if i missed anything so anyways i'm Novembermann Signing out.

[leotachy]

I checked the scenario bsp file for Summoners not Included some time ago. Dr. Brunner was supposed to spawn in the radio room. I wonder what her original role was in that mission :/

As for M.I.B characters, my guess is that they had something to do with Gothic Mansion and Ghost in the Military Machine.

Gosh, I'd love to get know more about Ghost in the Military Machine.

[Ghost in Training]

Apr 6, 2020 16:34:15 GMT leotachy said:

I checked the scenario bsp file for Summoners not Included some time ago. Dr. Brunner was supposed to spawn in the radio room. I wonder what her original role was in that mission :/

As for M.I.B characters, my guess is that they had something to do with Gothic Mansion and Ghost in the Military Machine.

Gosh, I'd love to get know more about Ghost in the Military Machine.

My guess is she was going to be accompanying Dr. Krauss like she did in The Blair Wisp Project. It seems like the M.I.B. characters were going to be in the Trainspooking mission which was going to follow What Lies Over the Cuckoo's Nest? There is even early game footage which was featured in a trailer for the game of one of the M.I.B characters walking along the train's corridor and being scared by Boo. Sadly I can't find the link for it.

The game developers are quoted as saying: The mission was cut because, according to the creators, "it's no fun haunting on a train because of the narrowness of the playing field." and was presumably replaced with Class of Spook 'em High.

ghostmaster.fandom.com/wiki/Trainspooking

[Ghost in Training]

It's clear Dr. Brunner's role in the game was never truly explained. She seems to be in many ways the mastermind behind the evil conspiracy in Gravenville to capture the Darkling and achieve dark power. I always felt like it was a bit annoying having her show up only to foil your plans twice. Only you never get back at her and really can't scare her unless you manage to find a way to do it. It has been done. I think Dr. Bruanner like other characters and maps in the game were modified for continuity reasons. In scope of the mast cuts that were done to the final product of the game. So likely had the game been more fleshed out Dr. Braunner would have been better explained in terms of her role in the story. In fact her bio explains her to be a "mysterious person" so it's almost like her role in the game is a vague opponent of yours trying to foil your plans. Which I guess keeps the player on edge knowing that no matter how many weak willed witches, priests, mediums and Ghost Beakers they scare off there is a higher "power" of opposition capable of stopping them.

As to Ghost in a Shell. Little is known about it beyond it would have contained the Darkling and a unique ghost in the form of a motorcycle demon called Azrael. It is also speculated a few doctors, insane people, Dr. Brunner, "5 watchers", and a police officer would have been in it. Which is odd because the title would lead you to think it's a mission set on a military base and the characters would reflect that. This almost leads me to think it was a mission similar to the Ghost Breakers mission along with What Lies Over The Cuckoo's Nest in which a "mad scientist" like Dr. Brunner has taken control of one of the buildings you haunted in the town and is trying to banish you. It is also thought that Ghost in a Shell followed Train Spooking. An already climatic "battle" type mission where you are in the defensive role and the fate of the ghost world is at stake. Perhaps developers or the publisher thought too many of these grand, final missions would make concluding the game harder. So they cut them and opt to end it at What Lies Over The Cuckoo's Nest, which in itself was cut a lot. For the UK release of the game the "bonus mission" set in the Ghoul Room was added to complete the game.


ghostmaster.fandom.com/wiki/Ghost_in_The_Military_Machine

[Nemesis]

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