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Post by Ghost in Training on Dec 21, 2017 16:52:20 GMT
Simple question that has someone puzzled me. I wonder where Gravenville located? It's clear it's probably a North American town seeing as how the American flag is located in the lobby of the police department. However, the developer is from Britain so this throws me off a bit I guess. One thing I can say is ING in a post about Ghost Master from 2003 speculates that the town is perhaps in Salam, Massachusetts based on how the games New England architecture looks. This is entirely up to speculation seeing as how vague and fictional everything about the game is. Let me know what you think I would love to hear what your theory is! Link to ING post: www.ign.com/articles/2003/04/10/ghost-master-2
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Post by Woitek on Dec 21, 2017 21:54:18 GMT
Team what was creating it was from UK, so you can assume that this game is located in UK.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 9:34:58 GMT
Haha, a fun question.
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Post by xavomel on Dec 22, 2017 12:27:54 GMT
I used to think the game was set in US, because of the fraternity/sorority levels (but it turns out they exists in UK too). Like you said the US flag seems to confirm this, but take a look at the screen in attachments. In army level the steering wheels are on the right side, which points to UK. Although it may be just the model designers' oversight. ^^ Edit: Actually the presence of Black Crow makes US vs UK moot, it's obviously the former. Attachments:
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Post by leotachy on Dec 23, 2017 19:14:06 GMT
I think its located in US. Developers probably forgot that they are only one using right side as a driver seat.
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Post by Ghost in Training on Dec 25, 2017 6:30:36 GMT
I used to think the game was set in US, because of the fraternity/sorority levels (but it turns out they exists in UK too). Like you said the US flag seems to confirm this, but take a look at the screen in attachments. In army level the steering wheels are on the right side, which points to UK. Although it may be just the model designers' oversight. ^^ Edit: Actually the presence of Black Crow makes US vs UK moot, it's obviously the former. That's an awesome point. Thank you all for the replies! I'm going to have to agree with you, Xavomel and a few another poster. You would think this small detail would make it the UK because of the developer being based there. However, seemingly more importantly Black Crow is Native American or Indigenous, therefore likely in America. It's fair to assume though like I said in my first post that the game is simply a hodgepodge of fake places and pop culture references. So, not much importance is really put on where it takes place. Which I actually like because Gravenville is fun to explore! Especially this open nature of imagining where it could be located. It could be anywhere like your town scaring people you can't stand for laughs! Perhaps this is the best way a game or any story can be. Is less descriptive leaving more room for the audience to imagine.
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Post by Ghost in Training on Dec 25, 2017 6:32:30 GMT
I think its located in US. Developers probably forgot that they are only one using right side as a driver seat. Great point. Seems likely since it was the early 2000's and the textures are fairly generic. Also, what a small detail to even notice! Seeing as the game was made in the UK this somehow makes a lot of sense. Though, it makes for a possibly cool continuity error!
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Post by andreasaspenberg on Jan 29, 2018 15:59:04 GMT
i have been doing some research and in the united states virgin islands they drive on the left. maybe it takes place there.
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Post by CuriousPhantom on May 31, 2020 23:25:49 GMT
I vouch for USA because of Black Crow, Dragoon, Daydreamer, and Hard Boiled. The clothes Daydreamer and Dragoon wears seem reminiscent of the American civil war, and Daydreamer's epitaph and a mortal description in Spooky Hallow confirms this takes place in America. Hard Boiled's epitaph makes reference to Colonel Sanders, an American fast food figure. The inconsistencies are from the cultural divide of the UK team making a game set in the USA in the days before internet speed and search engines were so fast and easy. Edit: Confirmed from concept art of a deleted mission (link). Notice the handwriting stating "New Orleans" and "Southern American".
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Post by GM Fan on Jun 7, 2020 1:31:11 GMT
I vouch for USA because of Black Crow, Dragoon, Daydreamer, and Hard Boiled. The clothes Daydreamer and Dragoon wears seem reminiscent of the American civil war, and Daydreamer's epitaph and a mortal description in Spooky Hallow confirms this takes place in America. Hard Boiled's epitaph makes reference to Colonel Sanders, an American fast food figure. The inconsistencies are from the cultural divide of the UK team making a game set in the USA in the days before internet speed and search engines were so fast and easy. Edit: Confirmed from concept art of a deleted mission (link). Notice the handwriting stating "New Orleans" and "Southern American". Yeah, I agree USA. Wherever Gravenville is it's obviously an American town with a colonial past or perhaps civil war past. The American flag appears on the lobby floor of Unusual Suspects. Daydreamer's clothing consist of a military outfit seemingly from the Civil War. The Victorian style house the Hutz family along with the "Indian burial ground" the Hammer occupies makes it seem like Gravenville has a very historical past. Where exactly it is located if that is north, south, east or west is hard to say. And it's interesting you bring up the UK team because even as a kid who played the game growing up in the USA I was and still am fascinated in how many pop-cultural references there are in the game. I played the game when it first game out on a demo disk. So I really didn't get half of the references until I got older and watched more films or looked it up on the internet. Also, take a look at the box art here for the game. It features a rustic, old American steam train, The Victorian Calamityville horror and the Hammer's shack which is based on the Evil Dead movies. So, Ghost Master is like a hodge podge of American pop culture references and locations based off of movies and other media. If we go off the creepy woods in the illustration here and box art it almost looks like perhaps the South or near a marsh of some type. But once again these are just speculations from a fan.
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